My Dog Won't Eat His Food: Lessons From the Internet's Pickiest Corgi

Cameron MainGinger, I'm going to say it. The most famous corgi in the world.

GingerIs that you, buddy?

Cameron MainI know the queen had them. I mean, I guess they're still around. Yeah. But everyone knows his name.

GingerIs that you, Bacon? Yeah, Mr. Bacon.

Chris NobleThe king of corgis.

GingerHe thinks so.

Cameron MainI can't believe the presence he had when we met him. When we were at Super Zoo, all these people were crowding around him everywhere he goes. And he is just like so much swagger.

GingerHe just knows. I don't know. He definitely commands a room like that. He's always been like that, though. It's crazy.

Cameron MainOne of the things that I find extraordinary is every time I call you or I text you, you're in a different part of America, usually, or the world with it.

GingerYeah, usually in the U.S. We stick to the U.S., but yeah.

Cameron MainWhat is some of the craziest journeys you guys have been on together?

GingerOh my gosh. It's funny because we're getting up into December and I was thinking like, oh, I should go back and think about all the places we've been. And I think he's traveled more this year than probably any year. But... A lot of the stuff is repeat stuff you know we have our things that we do every year we always go to the oregon coast in the summer that was I lived in oregon for a little bit and so since he's my dog he has to love it but thank god he does the oregon coast is always one of my favorite things we got to go to montana this year whitefish montana and We stayed at a Clydesdale ranch, and that was one of the most peaceful, beautiful, amazing experiences. We got the Aurora over our little cabin, and so those are always fun. And then he gets to do so many cool just partnerships with some of these hotels that have gone all out for him, and some of those have been crazy.

Cameron MainAny luxury hotels?

GingerYeah yeah he's we've done stuff with the ritz-carlton um they've been amazing we've done stuff with um the omni both in arizona and then up in minnesota which that one's beautiful um and just we've done some stuff in colorado we we did um telluride there's a gorgeous place there the inn at las creek um yeah we've just he's he's spoiled

Cameron MainHow many flights has he been on do you know

GingerI was trying to figure that out the other day because my first, so he's a COVID puppy. So I lost my soulmate dog Colton in 2020 to cancer. And he was not supposed to be my dog. My mom and my husband, when we lost Colton, just got him. And I actually didn't want him. He was a terrible puppy, but obviously it was the best thing ever. He's such a good boy now, but didn't start that way. But he was flown out here from, so during COVID, he's from Cleveland, Ohio, but the flights were like all shutting down during COVID. So this poor dog. They canceled his flight. So he had to drive to Chicago and then fly out here and got stuck like on the way. And so that was his first flight. And then I started flying with him during COVID when he was four months old. So I would say we travel a minimum of twice a month and there's multiple flights there. So I'm doing the math. It's hundreds.

Cameron MainHundreds of flights. Probably more flights than most humans.

GingerOh, yeah. Yeah, that's a joke. I wish I could get credit for his miles. But, yeah, he's definitely been on a ton. And then he also travels with me for work and my real job. So if you count those flights, because a lot of the flights that we take are his things. But, yeah, he's definitely a world traveler, well, U.S. Traveler.

Cameron MainYour real job is a lot less of a happy place than the dog world.

GingerIt's definitely different. I work in criminal defense. And so, yeah, it's definitely a little different world. I do mostly death penalty work. And so definitely a lot different than the happy, smiling, quirky community and dog community.

Cameron MainHow does that really let you release and get away from all of that? Because it must be quite a dark place to be working in. And you've got to find the opposite, I guess, when you come home.

GingerYeah for sure I think that's probably um why um I haven't um lost my mind doing the work that I do um because it is very even when you get a quote-unquote victory and in our work, a lot of times a win is that someone is going to get to spend the rest of their life in prison. That's a win. That's like you're popping champagne bottles. And that sounds really depressing and sad. And just the nature of it. There's victims and it's super sad stuff and super scary cases that are very tragic. And so going into the dog world where you have... Corgis and and doing a lot of the influencer stuff I've got to meet dogs that aren't just corgis I do so much locally that is the whole corgi community and there's such an amazing community not just in arizona but we've got to meet people all over the us but then doing like super zoos and um global pet expo we get to meet you know, people that are obsessed and crazy like we are with what all the different dog breeds. And it's just those people, it's so happy and fun and exciting. And just everybody is, it's so nice to have that where people don't, in my work, if they hear about the stuff I'm doing with bacon, they think it's... You know, you had him at a son's game. What? Like they just, they look at you like you have four heads. You know, he has more. What did you just, he had, you're excited about a new necklace. He got like your dog, but in the dog community, everybody thinks it's great. Like they're just as excited. Oh, let me see. Oh my God. I loved your this. So it definitely makes you happy and can take you out of your, your dark place that you're in for work.

Chris NobleYou had a really big part in building the Corgi community.

GingerI think my husband and I did. We like to think that we helped with that quite a bit. I mean, I think people probably all really love their dogs, but what's been so exciting is just the social network that people have built all over the place, not just in Arizona. But yeah, we really started back when my husband's dog, who was supposed to be my dog, her name is Aspen. She just turned 13 in October. We had her and Colton and yeah we started doing a lot of the meetups and getting people together to go on hikes or just do adventures do these themed parties because we thought you know hey they're corgis and they're super social and they're fun and it kind of um got really big and we just met so many fun people that way and dogs

Cameron MainSo when we arrived in Arizona, we met you straight away. We were at the chiropractors for Bacon. So you take this guy's health pretty seriously.

GingerOh, yeah, 100%. I mean, I lost Colton when he was only seven. And so, yeah, anything that you can do health-wise, wellness-wise to keep them happy. Bacon's super active. Like more active than any dog I've ever had. Anytime my mom has ever had. And, um, you know, Corey's had the long back and, um, just kind of a history of, you know, just things they're not, um, they're not really, um, built as aerodynamically for as active as they like to be. They're great hurting dogs, but the running jumping, but it's so good cause they can get overweight so easily. And so we want to keep them super active, but yeah, anything that, um, that we can do to keep his little bat good and keep him doing that for as long as possible. I can't put a price tag on that. So yeah, we do it all.

Chris NobleAnd you, you're around so many dog people. Everyone has their own opinions about health, supplements, food, every aspect of a dog's health. How do you, I guess, how do you come to your own opinions and how do you look at his health when you are surrounded by so many opinions?

GingerI think it's probably similar to the like real work that I do. I don't think there is a cookie cutter. This is how you do it. Step one, two, three. And it has to be that way. I think there's certainly things that are very similar. Like when you're looking at, you know, how should I approach this with, you know, my dog or my child? He thinks he's my child and he's not wrong. Um, and so I think you really have to look at it individually, like what, um, you know, breeds are all different. There's going to be some things that probably inherently are better for this type of breed than another, but you know, with the health stuff, there's so much out there. Um, and so I think just, you know, talking to, you know, people that maybe live a similar lifestyle to you, or there's, you know, things that you're seeing, like their dog went through this and you want to avoid it, or you're trying to see, Hey, they, their dog went through that and it worked out and everything was fine so you can talk to them and then if you have a dog bacon is um very picky when it comes to food and different things and so you have to also know your dog in that sense that while some people can you know their dog corgis um tend to be super food motivated when he was a puppy He didn't care about food. It was one of the hardest things I ever went through training-wise and probably one of the only benefits of COVID because I had so much more time because I was so jealous. Every friend and person I had that had a corgi, they could get their corgi to do anything for a treat. Bacon would look at you like, I don't care. And so just, you know, learning what works for your dog and then trying to implement a plan and being flexible and knowing that what worked when they were two might not work when they're six and just being, you know, just like you will with a child. Like, okay, you know, we're going to work through this and relying on people in your community, you know, the quarry community just all over is huge. You know, and knowing that like it evolves, you know, what was the best thing when Bacon was six months old. Now there's probably, you know, stuff that comes in that's even better. So just being open to all that and trying like a multifaceted approach because there's certainly not a one size. Oh, you just, you know, you can do just this exercise and it's going to be great. Or you can just go to, you know, just do the chiropractor and he'll be fine. No, he still needs to see the vet. He still does all of the other things. So that's what we do.

Cameron MainSo obviously you lost Colton at a far too early age and health was, I guess, dog health in general is something that's super important to you. One thing that we find so amazing was when we agreed to work together, we told you that we were working also with Santa Barbara Humane and that they were developing a top of the line health clinic with their new facility. And you said you can just donate all of the proceeds from the sales to them. That's for us when we knew, wow, you really do care about dogs' health.

GingerOh, 100%. I mean, they're our kids. And I love that. I mean, it's sad. I don't want to say, oh, I think it's great that they have all of the... You don't want to envision dogs going through horrible things like cancer and all of that. But when I was a kid, like... My mom is as obsessed with dogs as I am. She does the French bulldog thing, how I got into corgis, I don't know. But, you know, if you got, if your dog was diagnosed with cancer, it was just, you know, you were done. There wasn't a whole lot of things. And now I just think it's... You know, not that I wish that on anybody, but I do think it's amazing that there are so many things in place that, you know, it's almost becoming like, you know, people, there's options. And granted, those options aren't for everyone, but at least they're there for those, you know, pet insurance, all the different things that you can do to hopefully, you know, keep your kiddo with you as long as possible. And so, yeah, I just, I think any of that to give people, you know, the ability to hopefully extend and, you know, keep them living happy and healthy is amazing. And I would support any of that.

Cameron MainYeah. I mean, longevity is certainly what we are striving for. Is that why you were sort of so excited to partner with vi ta dog?

GingerOh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's I think that's great. I mean, you guys are out trying to, you know, do a really, really good thing, trying to, you know, do something that's all in one. And I think it's, you know, it's awesome. And I just love how much you guys are in the community. You know, you're talking to people. It's not just a lot of the brands. You know, the product may be really, really cool. It might be really great. But. You know, people would ask, you know, oh, do you know who started it or who's behind it? And I think it's always refreshing when the people that are the face of it and are behind it are very accessible and are very nice and are out trying to talk to people and get to know them and educate them. So I think that's cool.

Chris NobleThank you. We tried to be nice.

GingerAnd anyone that knows Martin's my friend. Shout out Mad Dogs.

Cameron MainShout out to Mad Dogs.

Chris NobleWe do love Martin.

Cameron MainThe problem is I've darted around all the different places. Yeah, the Rich Carlton stuff, that was really cool.

Chris NobleYou mentioned like things change over time. How... How have you seen the way that we approach nutrition or like proactive nutrition from obviously you grew up around dogs your whole life and then you've dogs have had such a big presence in your life and we're talking about okay now cancer is not maybe it's not it's not a death sentence anymore and there's things that people can do to be a bit more preventative or look after their dog's longevity. How have you seen nutrition change from when you were a kid till now?

GingerI think the word you just said proactive is probably the, from a personal perspective, the thing that I've seen change the most, um, you know, when I was a kid, um, you know, you took your dog to the vet when it was sick and that was, you know, and obviously you get the shots, but now, um, and I think nutrition's the same thing instead of just, you know, going in and, and, and I'm, I mean, this was a long time ago when I was a kid, unfortunately, I'm dating myself there, but you know, you, you didn't research the ingredients that were you know in the food that you were feeding and I don't mean that in a in a negative way you just you know everyone was your vet said buy this and you bought that or if your dog needed to lose weight you bought a weight loss food but you weren't really looking at what fillers were in it and what different um you know things like that if you know maybe you gave your dog a multivitamin, you know, maybe back when I was a kid, but I don't even know that we even did that. I think it was just, you know, your dog was sick. It went to the vet and there wasn't the proactive stuff, you know, now every year, you know, or every, my, my girl who's 13, she has to do it every six months. We do the blood work too. We run this big panel and it's expensive, but it's worth it because then you can look and see like, Oh, look, this number's a little weird. What can we adjust in their diet? What you know what are they getting too much of what are they not getting enough of what is a creative way that you could you know maybe fix whatever is looking off in that blood work because dogs mask everything um way more than people do you know you can have a dog that you know well they they look fine well yeah but they're not you know and then they have you know something really you know going on but they're um they mask it and maybe not him because he's kind of a baby but um So I think that's changed a lot, the proactive approach of not just waiting until there's something wrong or waiting until they turn, you know, 10 and you're like, oh, I really should be giving them some type of joint supplement. No, you can do that when they're young, start it. So that, you know, you're just giving them the best chance for longevity possible. So I think just being proactive, that was something we didn't. The education wasn't there for it. I don't think it was people being bad pet parents. I just think we didn't know. And so now that you know, now it's a world out there of things that you can do.

Chris NobleYeah, we completely agree. And one of the things that I say to a lot of people is people say all the time, like my dog's starting to slow down or are we starting to see them getting older? But a lot of people don't really connect that with it being there's something wrong internally. And that starts one or two years before any physical symptoms show up of maybe a little bit of mobility loss. So by that point, it's almost, it's not too late because there's always things you can do, but you really need to get ahead of it.

GingerAnd that's, I mean, that's why he goes to the chiropractor. I think I still, and that's a fairly new thing. And obviously, you know, that's for some people and it's not. But, you know, for him, no, he doesn't have an injury. I mean, he hurt his leg two years ago, but that, you know, on a beach, but it wasn't an injury that required surgery or anything. But I just noticed from how much he was jumping and running because we, you know, we're very, very into agility. We work with Zoom Room and just love them to death. He goes to that. Two to three times a week and gets to bring his friends and I was really worried like you know am I and I don't know you know I don't he doesn't compete in agility we're not we just do it as a fun like wellness thing and I was worried oh am I gonna have a dog you know in two or three years that like you know it's just so much on his joints and so making sure that he is taking supplements and he is doing the the thing for that but also you know just hey you know maybe if I start doing this now and have you know um his uh chiropractor you know make sure that he's you know good then down the road is that going to give him another year or two of being able to do that because he loves it so much totally worth it to me I'm willing to spend the money on that

Cameron MainI mean, we talk a lot about longevity, not just the lifespan, I guess, but also the health span. And what's amazing, I suppose, is you have a massive platform of very engaged people who are real dog people in the community. Why do you recommend VitaDog to these people to, I guess, extend their longevity and really hopefully thrive for longer years?

GingerI think it's really neat that it is an all-in-one type of supplement where you're not having to give multiple, you know, did I remember to do this? Did I remember to put that in? You know, also for a dog like Bacon. He's very picky. You know, there's some supplements that, you know, he'll take. There's other stuff, you know, having to give him a ton of different things would be difficult. But also he's picky and, you know, the flavor and whatnot, he likes it. And so, you know, it's not fun. You know, you have to be the parent and that if they don't like it, sometimes, you know, just like a human, if you don't like it, we're going to have to do it. But it is obviously a much more pleasant experience when it's something they actually like. But the all-in-one type of concept I think is really, really neat. You don't see that from a lot of different places. And so I just, I think it's a great concept.

Cameron MainYeah, it was, I do remember the first time we spoke, you said, well, let's first see if Bacon likes it because he is the most picky dog that I have ever seen. If it's Bacon approved, then we'll go a long way. That's what you said.

GingerFor sure, it's a good endorsement. I feel so bad. We go to, you know, he goes everywhere with me. And so, you know, a lot of the places they, you know, everything has really, really become so much more dog friendly over the last several years. And so even when you go to a store, you go to, you know, Starbucks or wherever you go, they all have like... Oh, can I give him a treat? And in my head, I'm like dreading because I know he's not going to take it. And I feel so bad. And so they're always like, oh, and I'm like, oh, he just ate. He had a big, big breakfast. Let me take it. He's going to eat it later because I feel like I look at him like you're making me look bad. But it's some sweet old lady that like you feel like the worst person because she's so excited to get bacon a treat. But yeah, he is. He's very picky. And then my other dog, she'd eat all of it. Like Aspen comes in. She's like, what do you have for me? I'll have all of it.

Cameron MainHe's just got a refined palette that's all

GingerSomething like that

Cameron MainIt's hard to go back from vita dog and caviar at the ritz-carlton

GingerYeah yeah they they treated him right there

Cameron MainWhen you have those two things I mean what more does the dog want

GingerYeah he's you're just I guess we'll call you sophisticated or spoiled

Cameron MainI think sophisticated suits him

GingerHe likes that yeah when he's rolling and like you know goose poop he doesn't look very sophisticated He loves hurting. And so when we do that, he's disgusting. So it's hard to think of him as sophisticated when I watch him.

Cameron MainYesterday we got John's story about Aspen rolling in the...

GingerOh my gosh. And they were in, where were they?

Cameron MainThey were in the middle of nowhere, I think, wasn't it?

GingerOh, it was, it was in, it was Coeur d'Alene.

Cameron MainYeah.

GingerAnd he literally, oh my God. Yeah. He had the fire department. They could, they were like using degreaser stuff on her. It was horrible. Yeah. His, his worst, he, we go herding, he loves to herd sheep. And so there's a really, really fun place we go to up in Southern California where the people are so nice because they, Corgis think they're all professional herders, and I'm sure there are some that are really good. We call it herding, but it's more like chasing. But Bacon loves to do that, and then he goes to the smelliest, most disgusting place in the little pen they have them in and just rolls and gets it everywhere.

Chris NobleIs that a Corgi thing?

GingerAnd he stinks so bad after that. So he's not very sophisticated then.

Chris NobleIs that a Corgi thing?

GingerThe rolling?

Chris NobleYeah, maybe.

GingerUm I know a lot of corgis that do it bacon's always been like that's kind of one of our little things on um that we in our stories on instagram that we post a lot bacon loves to roll whenever we fly um usually even he acts so dramatic we'll take a two-hour flight you know sometimes when we're flying like nashville or New York or somewhere. That's a long flight. I totally get it. But we'll take a two-hour little rink-eating flight. And then I have to find a spot in the airport. We get off the plane. He knows he has to wait until we get away from where all the people are at. Find one of those empty little gates. And then I tell him he can roll. And I undo his leash, and he just rolls all over the floor. It's probably dirty, so he's not very sophisticated there. But he loves to roll.

Chris NobleHis face is so funny. He knows you're talking about him.

GingerI'm ratting you out, dude. They're talking about how sophisticated you are and I'm ratting you out.

Cameron MainCan you tell us who's the most famous person that Bacon has managed to meet so far?

GingerThe most famous person?

Cameron MainBecause he's been on basketball games and everything, isn't he?

GingerYeah, yeah, we're still trying to. So we do a thing with the Phoenix Suns, and he's Bacon Booker. Devin Booker's my favorite player. And so we've tried. The one time we were going to meet him, he was hurt, and we didn't get to meet him. But he's met a lot of the Suns players. We did a thing with the Harlem Globetrotters last year, so he met all of them. We're doing it again in February. I'm super excited when they're in Phoenix. He's done a ton of stuff with the Arizona Diamondbacks. They have some of the nicest people that work there, and so he's got to be down in the dugout with them. We've done the races with the Cardinals. He just won this year. It was so fun with Little Stumps Racing. And then I'm trying to think. We're doing a thing with the Trans-Siberian Orchestra this year, so he's going to go backstage and get to meet them. He's met a bunch. But our bucket list is Nick Saban for Alabama and Devin Booker, which hopefully that'll happen this year.

Cameron MainThere was a story. Did you not get kicked off of the field one time over the basketball pitch or something because they didn't know you were with them?

GingerOh, my God, yes. Yeah, we, yes. He was taking photos with one of the sports teams, and they had, like, they all knew who he was, and they were being very sweet, like, with him and taking his picture, but I was standing, like, to the side, like, trying to get him to look, and the camera guy was like, get, that lady can't be out here. And so I was like, wait, wait, and then the marketing lady, who was very nice, came running down, she's like, no, no, she's his mom, because bacon was like about ready to sprint off because they were about to escort me off

Cameron MainThey thought you were just a random person

GingerYeah some fan I don't know what they thought

Chris NobleMy favorite thing is when you refer to your own job title as not criminal defense attorney but

GingerBacon's personal assistant. I got upgraded. I was just like, you know, there, but now I am his executive personal assistant.

Cameron MainCongratulations.

GingerYeah. And his stylist. Yeah. He gets to do all those things. That's my favorite job being Bacon's mom.

Chris NobleCreative director.

Cameron MainI want to come back a little bit to some health stuff. And I just wanted to ask if you had a message maybe for your followers to educate them on, I guess, health and from your past experiences with the dogs that you've had. Is there something that you would recommend to them?

GingerI guess it's it's health and just overall um you know that I I I get very busy with my my other job because it's you know serious but um john and I really have made a like kind of we don't have human kids we have the dogs and our kind of pack that we have is that no matter how busy take the time do even though you're tired take the walk take them to the snow because sorry I'm gonna get what I would have given to have more time with colton and I'm so lucky that I have him but it's you know if you can you know find a way to make it work um you know give them the best stuff because you know you're gonna regret it later take all the pictures take do all the adventures because um their time is so short. And, you know, for you, while it's inconvenient, I think it's just, it's so worth it because you're going to, you know, get the videos so you can look back. Because I know when I'm having a really bad day in my real job, it definitely helps me out to be able to get on my phone and look like, oh, you know, oh my gosh, last week we went and did this. Or to think about the upcoming stuff that you have. So I think... You know, if it's nutrition, if it's vet stuff, it's, you know, run the extra blood panel, do the extra things to make sure that you can put yourself in the position to have them with you as long as possible. And not just have them with you, but have them with you so that they're happy, healthy, and being able to be active in doing the things that they love. Because there's nothing that, you know, it's... It's funny, but I think the things that bring John and I, like, the most excitement and the most joy are watching them do the things that they love. Like, I have people that ask me a lot, you know, well, isn't it hard to travel with him or do you have hobbies? And I'm like, yeah, they all involve what he does. I mean, I love my football and I love basketball, but... I've kind of involved him in that. I mean, now you can almost bring your dog into what your hobby is. I mean, now he's a Devin Booker fan. He's an Alabama football fan. But I think any of the stuff you can do, whether it's supplements, whether it's, you know, doing the extra, you know, research that you need to do to get them on the right food, or if you, you know, sometimes dogs, you know, as puppies, or even when they're really young, there will be a health condition that sounds... Like very serious, but if you manage it, there are, you can get some really good quality time. And I don't think you can put a price tag on that. So I would just tell people that it's worth it. It may be hard. It may be, you know, you might have to make some changes in your lifestyle, but it's worth it to be able to get, when you can look at the video of them playing in the snow or them doing the things that they love, it is a hundred percent worth it.

Cameron MainBecause you're absolutely right. I mean, I mean, I mean, they might just be a little part of your life, but you're literally all of them.

GingerTheir entire life.

Cameron MainYou're everything to them. And it reflects so much when we see Bacon and we see Aspen. They are the happiest dogs. They can't wait to be wearing the next jacket, to be going on the next storm chase, to be flying to the next game. They are so excited about it.

GingerOh yeah john you know aspen's 13 and she doesn't um I mean to me because I've seen her since she was a baby you know I can tell like oh you know you but other people will not believe that she's 13. I mean she looks like she's eight she catches the frisbee you know her little things and granite you know it's it's hard because sometimes john has um you know we live in the real world and we have you know obligations and bills that you have to pay and everything but you know there is not a day that he will miss it doesn't matter what he has going on if that dog wants to go out and play frisbee he's going to go out he's going to throw the frisbee for her three or four times or whatever however many times she wants because um and we're very lucky that she's still able to do that because there's going to come a day when she can't and that's when you're gonna you know go oh my god I wish that I you know I should have thrown it yesterday for her. So I would just tell people that. And I think it's intuitive. You know that. But I think just being reminded of it is helpful because I'll look back. And Colton led a very, very full life in those seven years. But there's always things where you go, oh, I wish I had done that. So I would just recommend that to people.

Cameron MainYou know, that was his answer yesterday. He said, I think I asked him, what would you, what's one thing that you say? And he said, bring a lot of beach towels. And I said, okay. And he said to me, I never want to not let her go for a swim. I never want to let her not go for a run. Every single moment, like give them what they deserve every single time. And I thought, do you know what? That's actually such a little thing, but it goes such a long way in their lives.

GingerIt doesn't surprise me that sounds like what he would say because there will be times that I have to remind myself. I think you have to check yourself as a pet parent that I'll say to him like, oh, don't let her go in the water right now. We have to, and he'll look at me and he's like, you know, she's 12, you know, however old she was at the time. And I'm like, you're right. Okay, let her go for a quick swim. We can be five minutes. We can, yeah, let's do it. And I think we really, really try to live by that. And it's hard because we live in the real world and you have your real life expectations and obligations. But I think those are little things that as pet parents you can do that are going to pay off later. And you're going to be so glad that you... It was so inconvenient for him to go to Montana this year. My husband, I'm talking about. With his real job, he's a storm chaser, he really did not have time to make that happen, but he did. And the memories that we got to make there... We're going to look back on that, you know, when we're old and just go, oh, we're so glad we brought them. I think there's a little like Instagram meme or it's probably on all social media where it says, you know, I'd rather have like a lifetime of I'm so glad I brought them than, oh, they would have loved this. I wish we had brought them. So I think we really, really try to live by that.

Cameron MainYeah, you definitely, you definitely. That's something that we can see. You try to give them the best of everything and as much of it as you can. And it's, I think you inspire a lot of people on, on your platforms by doing that.

GingerI hope so. I think, you know, it's just such a, you know, a fun time to have pets. I think, you know, if you could look historically just now, because there's just so much that's out there. I mean, they're building whole dog bars and dog water parks and just tying. It's a great time to be a dog.

Cameron MainYeah I think I mean chris and I the reason we started this is because we lost dogs early um and we I mean when we look back we sort of think we think to ourselves a lot of these thoughts I wish I could have given him this food I maybe wish I could have taken him out here I wish I could have done more things so um Yeah, I mean, it's on the bottom of every packet. It says dog health made easy. And I guess the real message is to try and make every moment as good as it can be, the best quality of life possible. Spend as much time together as you can.

GingerControl what you can control and go all in. And yeah, 100%.

Cameron MainYeah. Ginger, thank you so much. This has been unbelievable. And thank you, Bacon, for being so patient and only barking a little bit.

Chris NobleI think he was starting to get sleepy at the end.

Cameron MainHe's like, I've got another appointment. I've got another calendar. I've got to go.

GingerDon't let anybody accuse you of being patient, huh?

Cameron MainGood.

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